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Author:  Cemynx [ 10 Jun 2014 20:44 ]
Post subject:  Improving on CS:GO
Juuuust posting here to say that I really appreciate constructive criticism/tips when we're playing together. I'd love it if y'all would be willing to post tips here for me, or tell me them in-game. If you want to tell me tips in-game, I just ask that you don't do it when we're in a super full server with lots of non-clan members.

If you can think of any videos that would help me specifically, posting them here would make you an awesome person. :DD I do sometimes watch videos on my own as well....but I'm super lazy.

If anyone is willing to take me on maps I don't know and teach me choke points, where to peek, other game tactics, that'd be super awesome! Even just a 1x1 would be neat 'cause it'd allow me to try and improve my aiming and just everything in general without the distraction of trying to be an assistance to my team :D

That is all<3
Author:  Amaroq [ 10 Jun 2014 20:48 ]
Post subject:  Re: Improving on CS:GO
Practice other guns other than the p90
Author:  Cemynx [ 10 Jun 2014 21:01 ]
Post subject:  Re: Improving on CS:GO
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Practice other guns other than the p90
Hehehe, fair shot. I do occasionally buy an m4 or an AK and attempt to get kills with them. The problem is that I don't get kills with them, so I can't afford to keep buying them.
Author:  Amaroq [ 10 Jun 2014 21:36 ]
Post subject:  Re: Improving on CS:GO
When you play DeathMatch, make sure you pick those weapons instead of doing random weapons. That will help that a lot.
Author:  Cemynx [ 10 Jun 2014 22:20 ]
Post subject:  Re: Improving on CS:GO
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When you play DeathMatch, make sure you pick those weapons instead of doing random weapons. That will help that a lot.
Yes ma'am.
Author:  Insanity [ 11 Jun 2014 13:08 ]
Post subject:  Re: Improving on CS:GO
there are a couple videos on youtube by warowl that helped me out when i first started out. he goes in depth with his explanations, explains the do's and don'ts. etc..

along with adreN, he makes good helpful videos.


it varies between people and their play style, but what helped me a lot with aiming is going offline with bots using a bot config, putting the bot difficulty to 3 and do nothing but one tap headshots, if you miss type kill in console, rinse repeat. it will train your muscle memory to always have the crosshair at head level.
Author:  InstantKarma [ 11 Jun 2014 17:50 ]
Post subject:  Re: Improving on CS:GO
Weak hands correlate with poor CS:GO performance. Follow this routine daily: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KUVHEQU8BI
Author:  jero [ 11 Jun 2014 18:31 ]
Post subject:  Re: Improving on CS:GO
I recommend the https://www.youtube.com/user/WatchSpade ... =0&sort=da series. He started as a complete noob and documented his progress and what he was learning. It is like a crash course in CS.

Later you can start watching the advanced stuff like smokes and jazz.


Oh yea. Stop using the P90. You can use other SMGs as effectively and they offer higher rewards. But they have their place in specific scenarios, but are not worth the investment in a competitive buy round, especially against amazing aimers that you will never get close to. There are exclusions with play types like get_right's lurk mode, but the #1 ranked cs player in the world can do what he wants.
Author:  Cemynx [ 11 Jun 2014 21:00 ]
Post subject:  Re: Improving on CS:GO
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there are a couple videos on youtube by warowl that helped me out when i first started out. he goes in depth with his explanations, explains the do's and don'ts. etc..

along with adreN, he makes good helpful videos.


it varies between people and their play style, but what helped me a lot with aiming is going offline with bots using a bot config, putting the bot difficulty to 3 and do nothing but one tap headshots, if you miss type kill in console, rinse repeat. it will train your muscle memory to always have the crosshair at head level.

I find that if I play against bots, I tend to get a hell of a lot worse than if I play against people. I'll give this a shot as well though.

I'm not sure I understand what you're doing as well. Aim for the head, and if I miss the head on the first shot, kill myself?
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Weak hands correlate with poor CS:GO performance. Follow this routine daily: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KUVHEQU8BI
This is hella hard to do! I played piano for several years, so I thought I had a better than average hand dexterity. But that guy's fourth and fifth fingers are not linked at all like mine are ._. Muuuust practice this mooore. This is something I can do when I'm sitting and waiting, so this is awesome, thanks!
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I recommend the https://www.youtube.com/user/WatchSpade ... =0&sort=da series. He started as a complete noob and documented his progress and what he was learning. It is like a crash course in CS.

Later you can start watching the advanced stuff like smokes and jazz.


Oh yea. Stop using the P90. You can use other SMGs as effectively and they offer higher rewards. But they have their place in specific scenarios, but are not worth the investment in a competitive buy round, especially against amazing aimers that you will never get close to. There are exclusions with play types like get_right's lurk mode, but the #1 ranked cs player in the world can do what he wants.

Thank you for the link! I'll give it a watch.

What other smg would you recommend I use? Reason I use the p90 is because I'm most familiar with it over the other smgs, and I don't know which other ones deal decent damage or not.


Thanks to everyone for the suggestions of what youtube users I should watch :DD
Author:  Redman113 [ 11 Jun 2014 21:16 ]
Post subject:  Re: Improving on CS:GO
+1 for watch spade. Great teacher on improvement
Author:  Amaroq [ 11 Jun 2014 21:54 ]
Post subject:  Re: Improving on CS:GO
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I find that if I play against bots, I tend to get a hell of a lot worse than if I play against people. I'll give this a shot as well though.
If you think shooting bots is easy, you need to try this:

viewtopic.php?t=1910
Author:  Insanity [ 11 Jun 2014 22:27 ]
Post subject:  Re: Improving on CS:GO
yeah, if you miss the first shot, suicide. it forces you to have your crosshair at head level while having to be precise with your movements.
Author:  JabberwocK [ 11 Jun 2014 23:55 ]
Post subject:  Re: Improving on CS:GO
I suggest when you are playing you make good use of the time after you die by watching the best player on your team who is still alive. Try to incorporate some of the things you see into your game.
Author:  Traviesaurus [ 12 Jun 2014 02:47 ]
Post subject:  Re: Improving on CS:GO
I really dont recommend the bot thing :s Bots are very predictable. The best practice Ive ever had was public aim maps (yay we have an aim server) and free for all death match where you try to only get headshot kills.
Author:  Amaroq [ 12 Jun 2014 11:38 ]
Post subject:  Re: Improving on CS:GO
Don't listen to these anti-bot haters. You can't develop even the slightest bit of muscle memory if everything is completely unpredictable. You need to focus on the developing some consistency with being able to move your crosshair to where you want it go, stopping when you want to stop, and shooting one shot without spraying and ruining your recoil. You can't do that when the "where you want your crosshair to go" keeps moving around. I recommend using the link I posted above but additionally putting bot_stop 1 in console to practice those things.

Once you actually get comfortable with the basics of moving your crosshair where you want it to go, stopping when you want it to stop, and shooting just one bullet for a kill, you can start incorporating moving targets. Only when your muscle memory is sufficiently developed should you begin to train prediction (again, though, you can do that against bots, and they won't shoot back, so you're only training prediction, not prediction and evasion). Then you can start working on spray control. Then you can put it all together in a real deathmatch. Trying to jump into training at the hardest point, where you're having to work on enemy prediction, bullet evasion, spray control, and muscle memory for headshots will be less efficient. It would be like instead of doing free throw practice and layup practice you just had a team of six year olds scrim each other all day every day and expected them to learn how to play good basketball. You have to take advice from people who have been training sports for ages - practice one thing at a time - it doesn't make you worse, and can only make you better.
Author:  Traviesaurus [ 12 Jun 2014 11:53 ]
Post subject:  Re: Improving on CS:GO
"You have to take advice from people who have been training sports for ages"

I didnt like that you said I was wrong. Disagree, sure. Ive played more sports and competitive CS than anybody else. I just dont care to practice and be good any more :s
Author:  Amaroq [ 12 Jun 2014 12:00 ]
Post subject:  Re: Improving on CS:GO
It's fine if you don't want to practice and be good anymore. And I didn't say you were wrong - if you or Cemynx just wants to shoot moving targets to practice, more power to you. But it's objectively true that if you want to get good at a complex activity you have to train the individual parts first. Even people who are very good at these activities still spend massive amounts of time breaking down individual parts of the activity when they want to get better. Even a top level professional basketball player, for example, will practice a flat footed two foot shot just to work on their arm movement and follow-through before backing up and practicing a more complex mid range jump shot.

Aside from that, though, you're certainly correct to say there is a lot of personal preference and opinion. Since your goals do not include practice and getting good, it makes sense that you would train in the way that is most enjoyable to you, and I'm sure a lot of that enjoyment includes the challenge of an aim map. Shooting stationary bots is not even close to challenging, notwithstanding the benefits, just like shooting two foot shots is not challenging. In that regard, I certainly don't even disagree with you, let alone wish to call you wrong.
Author:  InstantKarma [ 12 Jun 2014 12:27 ]
Post subject:  Re: Improving on CS:GO
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"You have to take advice from people who have been training sports for ages"

I didnt like that you said I was wrong. Disagree, sure. Ive played more sports and competitive CS than anybody else. I just dont care to practice and be good any more :s
I'm calling bullshit.

**Beats chest**

ROAR
Author:  Traviesaurus [ 12 Jun 2014 14:00 ]
Post subject:  Re: Improving on CS:GO
My misinterpretion. Thanks for clearing that up :)
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