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CSGO Lounge acted as a big eye-opener for teams as some got their popularity from Lounge and without it, they wouldn't have gotten anywhere.
This is simply not true. Nobody got their popularity from CSGOLounge. They got their popularity from winning. CSGOLounge
may have amplified that, but it is not due to that. Correlation =/= causation.
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"this is the beginning of the end of csgo if lounge will close down.
1. who will be watching the trash tier 3-4 teams if not people who bet on them?
Doesn't matter. Tier 3-4 teams don't make CSGO very much money at all. It will always be the tier 1 teams and SOME tier 2 teams. The majors are where a huge chunk of competitive CSGO revenue comes from. The other part is cases. Gambling is still in CSGO.
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2. A LOT of sponsors gonna pull out because drop in viewer numbers gonna be huge.
I agree that there will be a drop in viewership. I disagree that it will change sponsorship. You can still bet on CSGO matches
IN CSGO. That isn't nothing. Betting on your fantasy team and betting on the winning teams still adds value to watching the games.
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3. first pro players of tier3-4 teams gonna lose their salary and their job because of all above.
I would argue that tier 3-4 teams don't have a salary. They have a bonus structure for winning tournaments.
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4. a lot of casters etc and people that work for companies around csgo gonna lose their job cause all that above.
Again, same points as above, this is simply not true.
SOME casters will lose their jobs if they lose popularity. I wouldn't say a
LOT because I wouldn't say there
IS a lot of casters currently.
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i really dont believe that people know csgo would be nowhere close to how big it is now without csgolounge. if lounge closes people like sirscoots will realize that just the existence of csgolounge had a 100 times more positive influence than anything what he has done for the game
I strongly disagree. The toxicity that CSGOLounge and other betting sites has brought to the scene is immense. Players are literally being threatened for losing matches. Players are literally being swatted out of anger from trolls. Increased popularity by
NO MEANS equates to positive influence. I think people like Sir Scoots and pro players will realize the negativity that has come from the skin betting websites.
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what I really don't like is them leaving out daily fantasy sports websites like alphadraft, draftkings, and fanduel. they support csgo, dota 2, and many other esports. how are those sites any different?
I theory they might not be very different. In law, the fantasy sports websites operate on money, where Valve has no say; versus, skin betting sites
needing to use steam accounts to recieve the skins.
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Hmmm, that is very interesting. I wonder if the shutdown of CSGOLounge will really have that sort of impact. I really have a hard time believing that teams got opportunities because of skin betting on random sites. It's possible they got more popular in the public eye, but I really don't believe that organizations weren't already scouting them or wouldn't have found them if it weren't for skin betting.
EXACTLY.
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Teams wouldn't just choose to be a part of it. Their associations and sponsors would make that happen. Individually the teams couldn't support it. Now that HLTV is practically the only place to see new matches, it will be hard for teams to get really popular.
I think you are forgetting that Counter-Strike was a popular esport long before skins were a thing. Other games are popular esports without these types of betting websites. CSGO is already huge. That audience won't just disappear.
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Public eye is incredibly important. Sponsorships, to be honest, are 99% publicity. Without that public eye sponsors will drop their sponsorships rather quickly as it may not profitable for them.
I think you answered your own statement. No, sponsorships are not 99% publicity. They are 10% publicity and 90% profit. Absolutely, they won't sponsor a team if it won't profit them in any way. Remembering that an increase in sales because your name is on a team, is profitable. Just like your team winning and owing you a sponsorship fee is also profitable. There are different ways sponsors can make money.
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and with how automated systems and bots are setup, getting the system rigged is a bit tedious to setup.
I strongly disagree. Devaluing and item is a great way to make more money. They can take their 5% or what ever it is, but if they devalue every skin by $.50, they will make a metric assload of money.
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Their bot system has been perfect for me and I have not seen any sort of shady business
What about their 30 day skin policy where they take your skins if you don't return them or bet them. To compound that, I have never had a good experience with bots. I would estimate that 10% of the time I get my skins on the first try, the rest of the time I can't even get a single trade to go through.
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Only a mark few have been known to be sketch, but one can't simply block out an entire industry over a few shoddy culprits.
Really,
MOST of them have been known to be sketch. Only a mark few have been shown (not proven though) to be fair.